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i don't understand a word -- not at all. not at all. look, i'm traveling with rod. i didn't know rod before. but i've gotten to know him, and i get along very well with him. >> all right. hello, everyone. this is kate bolduan. you have been listening to president trump as he's heading down to florida today, speaking about two big issues. now supreme court justice brett kavanaugh and also who's going to be joining him on his trip down to florida. deputy attorney general rod rosenstein. remember, the same rod rosenstein "the new york times" had been reporting that had discussed secretly reporting the president after his firing of then-fbi director james comey back in 2017, and what the status of his employment status has been a huge question. now, he's heading down with the
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president to florida. let me get to the white house now. cnn's abby phillip is there. it seems like are we at a point where we can say the president is saying let bygones be bygones? >> it does seem like president trump is not talking like a man who is preparing to fire someone today. in fact, inviting him onto air force one and saying it is going to be very nice to have him there, as he goes down to florida for this police convention. now, the president, i was struck by how much he emphasized the good relationship he had with rosenstein. he noted that he didn't really know him all that well up until recently. but he said repeatedly, we have a very good relationship. he didn't answer questions about whether or not he was still thinking about firing him or if he intended to. and again, kate, i don't think that getting a ride on air force one is necessarily the way you would do that, so it does appear that president trump is not necessarily gearing up for something dramatic in that respect today. but we also know that this is the conversation we have been
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waiting for the two of them to have. the president said he put off that conversation until after brett kavanaugh was confirmed, and now they're going down to florida together. so there was that big issue, but then you also heard president trump do something else, which is gearing up for this big midterm fight. he's making a case against democrats saying they overplayed their hand with kavanaugh. he said they were caught up in a hoax. now, that is a very strong way of describing this. this was after weeks ago saying christine blasey ford was credible, the president now calling this whole episode a hoax. it's interesting to see him in this mood, going down to florida. looks like rod rosenstein is having a conversation with him, but he could be in pretty good shape based on the president's mood today, kate. >> the mood that can change on a dime. abby, thank you so much. really appreciate it. as abby is talking about the midterms, the president is also holding a primetime ceremonial swearing-in of brett kavanaugh, that is happening also later
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today. joining me now to discuss all this, jackie kucinich is here, a cnn political analyst. chief legal analyst jeffrey toobin and mark preston, cnn's senior political analyst. mark, what a difference a week and a half makes, i guess, because it was a week and a half ago, i think, yeah, about a week and a half ago that the president was supposed to sit down with rod rosenstein to have this conversation about his employment status. i think we both remember when we were trying to work out what the employment status was on live tv, for quite a while for rod rosenstein. what is this? what are we seeing today? >> i'm not as confused or perhaps i am as confused. we go back to those ten days, and you saw donald trump, we thought he was going to rip off rod rosenstein's head. he very well might do that. he may fire rod rosenstein or ask him to step down on this plane ride. we just don't know yet. it's interesting, we are judging really the fate of people's employ. the fate of people's careers,
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the fate of people's legacies based upon the mood of the president on a certain day. it's just amazing that we're at this point. so to your point, kate, i still am confused. >> mark, we have to get past our confusion at some point, buddy. we'll figure it out together. jeffrey, what do you make of what he's saying about rod rosenstein? he says he has a very, very good relationship with him and they're going to have a nice chat on the plane. i'm struck by how uncharacteristic that is for the president of the united states to approach anyone who has threatened the 25th amendment, according to "the new york times," and talked about recording, secretly recording him. why it's so easily overlooked now. >> let's remember why rod rosenstein matters. >> please. >> rod rosenstein is the deputy attorney general of the united states. and because jeff sessions has recused himself from the russia investigation, rod rosenstein is robert mueller's superior. he's the person who can fire robert mueller, the person who
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can decide what to do with robert mueller's report when it comes out. that's why his status matters. i would not take what the president said today as the final word on rosenstein's status. i think the president has probably been persuaded to put all these issues off until the end of the mid -- until the midterms have taken place. the president has all but said explicitly, he's going to fire jeff sessions after the midterms. he may clean house at the department of justice. that will potentially create a new superior for robert mueller, someone who could fire him. that's why this is all important. i don't think most people could identify who the deputy attorney general of the united states was through most of american history. it's usually a pretty obscure role, but the reason we care about it today is because of rosenstein's relationship to the mueller investigation. >> and jackie, it is fascinating because this was a conversation that was supposed to happen, and
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they decided to put it off because of the kavanaugh hearings. they didn't want to overshadow or distract from the kavanaugh hearing what the white house said. the meeting then delayed, and now the meeting is happening now, essentially, the day before the man steps on the court. >> right, and i don't know what that means for rosenstein's longevity, because the president doesn't seem as newly angry about the reports about rosenstein either jokingly or not saying he wanted to wear a wire. i just don't think we know. that said, i wouldn't read too much into the good relationship comment. the president has said that about a number of people who are no longer employed inside the white house. i don't know that's an indication of good will or not. it usually ends up being a neutral term the president tends to use. >> let's move on, the other big issue the president is talking about. he seemed very focused on the impact of all of this, brett kavanaugh, and the process, if you will, on the midterm
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elections. mark, when the president says that he thinks there are doing to be a lot of democrats voting for republicans because of what has played out in the past couple weeks, i mean, he can say that, and maybe he's right. what numbers is he looking at? >> right. let me use a phrase he likes to use so often, and just very basic. it's fake news. what he's saying, it really coincides with his idea there's going to be a red wave in november. all the data shows that is not the case. look, we certainly have seen republican quote/unquote enthusiasm increase over the past couple weeks. certainly around the supreme court fight, but the idea that donald trump thinks that democrats necessarily in large swaths are going to vote republican is insane. and that's just donald trump just shooting off his mouth without talking about anything that is factual. but we shouldn't be surprised by that. listen, at this point right now,
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i think we're heading into an election that's going to be very polarized. we know that already. we saw this weekend, kate, we saw donald trump go after not only elizabeth warren but cory booker and joe biden. we saw cory booker in iowa going after donald trump. we saw elizabeth warren in massachusetts doing the same. we're in for some really nasty fights for the next few weeks. >> weeks, years, mark. >> years. >> since it hasn't already happened. jackie, let me play what mitch mcconnell said just yesterday in an interview about how he would like to thank democrats for how this has gone because it will help, he thinks, help republicans. listen to this. >> i want to thank the other side for the tactics that have allowed us to kind of energize and get involved our own voters. >> what do you think? i heard john kasich over the weekend say it's a pox on both houses. who is going to be -- where is it? is it just for everyone to wait
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and see, buckle up, and i'll see you at the polls? because republicans say they're just as energize as democrats now? >> we'll have to see. at the beginning of the kavanaugh process, particularly when christine blasey ford came out with her allegations, you did feel the republican party, some fear about how this was going and how this would affect the midterms. further energizing particularly democratic and independent women. and there was a tide turn, as this continued to roll out where republicans started to really resent and get energized based on how brett kavanaugh was being written about in terms of some of the allegations from high school, about his drinking and what not. so, and you heard democrats at the end of the debate saying privately, let's just get this over with because they saw the gop base was uniting behind this nominee and behind the party. now, how long the anger lasts,
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whether it lasts four weeks, which is like 1,000 news cycles from now, that's an open question. >> then the most amazing moment of the weekend, jeffrey, is when mitch mcconnell decided to change the rules that republicans have set themselves when it comes to supreme court nominations. the rule being you don't fill a vacancy in an election year. now, you don't fill a vacancy in an election year when the opposing party is in control of the senate. that seems to be the new rule. watch this. >> you have to get back to 1880 to find the last time a senate controlled by a different party from the president confirmed a supreme court justice to a vacancy created in the middle of a presidential election. >> mr. leader, i don't think that's right. in 1956, eisenhower nominated brennan, the 84th congress was a democrat-controlled. >> that's not at all what happened, john. >> the 1956 history is a bit more complicated, as we dove into it earlier this morning.
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regardless, i don't think people should care that much about the date we're talking about. the fact of the matter is, mitch mcconnell is setting up to go back on a rule that republicans set. >> that stopped merrick garland from getting a hearing or a vote. look, mitch mcconnell has made it his mission as republican leader to stop democratic judicial appointees from being confirmed and to make sure republican judicial officials get confirmed. he doesn't care if people like us call him a rip khypocrite fo changing rules in the middle. if there's a supreme court vacancy the day before donald trump leaves office he'll try to fill it because this is what mitch mcconnell cares about. if he has a majority in the republican senate, that's what he's going to do. >> what he's -- would it make it better if they were more candid about it, just say there are no rules? isn't that where we are? >> it depends who's the audience. one of the fascinating things about american politics which i have never really understood is
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that democratic voters care less about the supreme court than republican voters do. if you go back to the republican -- democratic convention in 2016, neither president obama or hillary clinton mentioned the fact that merrick garland was being held hostage at that very moment. the republican base, which disdains president trump's personal life, loves him because he has delivered on judges. that's a difference between the parties. maybe kavanaugh will help change that, but it's just worth noting, there is not an equal approach to the courts when it comes to democrats and republicans. >> thanks so much. i want to offer this up because it was hard to hear as the helicopters are always in the background. the president was asked directly about firing rod rosenstein, and his answer was no, i don't know, he said after he was asked if he had plans to fire rod
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rosenstein. no, i don't know. >> n-o or k-n-o-w. >> stand by to stand by. anyway, thanks. >> we have breaking news coming in. the national hurricane center upgraded tropical storm michael to a hurricane. it's expected to be strengthening, to be gaining strength as it approaches the gulf coast? we'll give you details on that coming up next.
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panhandle on wednesday. what are you watching right now? >> i'm watching this go from a 1 to a 2 to a 3 before landfall, kate. this will be a major hurricane making landfall, plus or minus 100 miles from panama city. it could be over to the right, apalachicola, or to the left, probably pensacola. but we're only 48 or 54 hours from landfall. you go, wow, that really happened fast? the gulf of mexico is not very big and it's very warm. so the hurricane hunter aircraft have been in it, seeing the rainfall on their radar. they have also seen some wind speeds of almost 70 miles per hour. there's the latest, 70 miles per hour. that's not technically a hurricane, but the hurricane center said close enough. we're not going to mess with this. we know it's getting there. we know it's getting a lot bigger before it stops. so let's just make it a hurricane right now. let people know this is going to be a big one. 120 miles per hour, and some computer models are higher than that, making landfall somewhere here in that florida panhandle area. normally the right side is a lot
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worse than the left side. we'll have to keep watching that, but the cone is still somewhere between pensacola and apalachicola. but then where does it go? over the area that flooded from the last storm. and there could be six inches of rainfall on top of those places because here's how the tracks are going to work. the american model and european model, the euro, the yellow one here, turning to the right, right toward charleston, and that's anywhere in that area. doesn't need another drop of rain, kate. >> yeah, no kidding. you mentioned it seemed to develop -- it really seemed to develop, i mean, kind of come out of nowhere. is that just because that's how it works in gulf? >> it is. that caribbean area by cancun and cuba, very warm water. then you get into the gulf of mexico, we don't have shear pushing it and tearing it apart, a little bit but not a lot, and the heat of the water is just enough to make it explode,
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called rapid intensification. this is something to watch out for. you have 36 hours to make preparations. boards up, water in your house, that's not a lot of time. >> no kidding. thanks. really appreciate it. coming up for us, the deadly limousine crash that killed 20 people, including four sisters. how did this happen? and what are investigators finding on the scene right now. we'll be right back. hi! cinturones por favor. gracias. opportunity is everywhere. ♪ it's gonna be fine. it's a door... ♪ it's doing a lot of kicking down there. waiting to be opened. ♪ whatever your ambition... ♪ whatever your drive... ♪ whatever you're chasing... driver, are we almost there? we're gonna have a baby! ♪ daddy! daddy! opportunity is everywhere.
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heartbreaking details and no good answers today after a tragic and horrific crash in uptate new york. an astounding 20 people including four sisters and newlywed couples lost their lives after a limousine lost control at an intersection. everyone inside the vehicle died and two pedestrians also who were hit. it's the deadliest transportation accident in the united states in a decade. this morning, we're learning more details about the victims. barbara douglas lost two nieces in the crash. >> they were fun loving. they were wonderful girls. they would do anything for you. and they were very close to each other. and they loved their family. they loved their parents. they had -- one has two little children and one has one child.
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and they now have no home or no parents. >> just devastating. polo sandoval is live near the scene in schoharie, new york. what are you hearing there today? >> you know, there are many questions that we will hopefully get answered in the next day or two, at least later this afternoon. the most important of which is how could this happen? of course, as law enforcement tried to get to the bottom of that, the region where this horrible accident happened is left in a state of shock, in a state of mourning. and that sadness is certainly palpable, as we have been talking to people who have been stopping near the scene, including congressman john faster. first off, oun condolences to you and the rest of your constituents here. what do you want the rest of the country to know about what the residents of new york's 19th congressional district are experiencing now? >> there's a lot of pain and extraordinary sadness. the lesson here is every life is precious. we should hug and love our
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family and our friends and realize that every single day we have on this earth is a gift from god. there will be time for us to reconstruct this accident and the investigators and state police and the sheriff and the ntsb are already working on that to try to figure out what was the cause. was it vehicle failure, was it driver incapacity, whatever, but the main focus right now is son the 20 lives that were lost. the incredible sadness that this has brought to families in our region. and the fact that every day is precious. you have to love your family and friends and your loved ones. and recognize that. >> congressman, thank you for your time. again, pray for your whole district. >> god bless you. >> again, kate, this is one of many people who have stopped by. the congressman hitting on that point, of course, that the attention right now on these 20 individuals, but at the same time, pushing investigators to hopefully be able to reveal and hopefully they'll find out what
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led to the horrible accident on saturday afternoon. >> yeah, and the ripple effects and the fallout, really not even beginning to set in for so many families of the lives that were lost. polo, thanks so much. >> so was it speed, was it the intersection which locals have called a dangerous one? was it the limousine itself? there are so many questions for investigators as they try to figure out what went wrong. joining me now is someone with insight into what this investigation could look like, former head of the ntsb, debra hirshman. thank you for being here. >> good to be with you. >> if you were investigating this, what are the questions you would be looking for? what would you be doing right now, what questions do you want answers to today? >> so the investigators really want to look at the human, the machine, and the environment. so when it comes to the driver, they're going to want to understand everything with respect to the driver, his history, his work rest history, if he might have been impaired. they'll wand drug and alcohol
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tests, if there were medical conditions, and subpoenaing things such as cell phone records. when it comes to the record, they want to make sure that 2001 vehicle that's been reported was in good working order, they're going to want to look at maintenance records and information on that. they'll be documenting the environment, the physical scene. it's been reported that this intersection has had crashes before. they will want to look into all of that and understand what happens. but in particular, when it comes to the vehicle, understanding the crash dynamics and occupant protection will be a big thing they'll pay attention to. >> i want to ask you more about that because the early reports are this was a 2001 ford expedition that was retrofitted to become a limousine. generally speaking, how stretch -- how are stretch limousines not subject to the same safety regulations that other passenger cars are subject to? when you're talking about kind of the protections within the vehicle, what could be different
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here? >> so when we talk about vehicle design and requirements, when we're looking at stretch vehicles, all of those things are off the table because very often, what's happening is after market, they're stretched. they may come out of the factory if it's an excursion, will come out of the factory per specs, but it may be modified after that, and there are no requirements for after market modifications to be re-evaluated or retested. so for consumers. this is really challenging because they don't know that they're not getting the same level of safety in a regular excursion verses a stretch excursi excursion. >> look, the death toll is so devastating. do you think when you lay it out that way and the fact there's a big unknown for people getting into these vehicles, do you think people should avoid this kind of transportation altogether? is taking a stretch limo, one that was like this that could have been retrofitted, is it
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inherently dangerous? >> so one of the things that we know is are occupants in vehicles, we see many fatalities every day. one of the most dangerous things each of us do is get behind the wheel of a car. we have 100 plus fatalities on our roads every day. it's great that people are paying attention to this one because there were 20 people killed in a single crash, but each day, we have a lot of fatalities. so it's inherently dangerous to be out on the road. we want that number to be zero, so whether it's addressing the driver, the vehicle, or the environment, we have opportunities to get to zero. by making improvements, and you're raising great points when it comes to the vehicle, what more can we do? >> yeah. real quick, when do you think people are going to start getting some answers, from your experience on how these investigations go? >> you know, i'm sure they have a lot of answers that they are gathering right now. it's basically a painstaking
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exercise to corroborate all of the factual data. you need multiple sources. >> thank you for coming in. i really appreciate it. >> thank you. coming up for us, the mysterious disappearance of a saudi journalist who criticized the crown prince. walked into a consulate in turkey last week, he hasn't been seen since. that's next. resin, you get a strong repair that you can trust. plus, with most insurance a safelite repair is no cost to you. >> customer: really?! >> singers: safelite repair, safelite replace. replace one meal or snack a day with glucerna... made with carbsteady to help manage blood sugar... ...and end the day with a smile. glucerna®. everyday progress.
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disappearance of a "washington post" contributor. jamal khashoggi, who had applied for permanent u.s. residency was last seen entering a saudi arabian consulate in istanbul last week rrk but the outspoken critic of the saudi crown prince never left the building. some turkish officials now believe he was killed while inside the consulate. but the saudis deny any involvement. they say that he left the consulate shortly after his arrival. something clearly does not add up. cnn is live in front of the consulate in istanbul. turkish officials do not appear to be buying the saudi explanation here. >> no, they're not. and this is something that we have heard from turkish officials over the past week, saying they're getting unsatisfactory answers from the saudis. and just a short time ago, a few minutes ago, we heard from the turkish president, president erdogan, also saying saudi has to really provide evidence for what they're claiming. as you mentioned, over the past week, saudi authorities say
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jamal khashoggi did enter this building behind me and they're saying he left a short time after that, and they haven't been able to prove it. you know, many are asking, and we have heard this from the president here, too, saying if he did indeed leave, why not provide footage from their security cameras, video that shows him leaving the consulate? i can tell you, we have been looking around the consulate, and you can see multiple security cameras around here. now, we know that turkish authorities are taking this very seriously. they launched a criminal investigation over the weekend. they're looking through everything, combing through security videos, they're even looking at the airport, who arrived and who left. and one thing they're particularly interested in, they say, a group of 15 saudis arrived here on the day of khashoggi's disappearance. they were at the consulate at the same time he was here and then they left the country. this is something they're looking closely at and they also requested permission to search the consulate, while some are
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skeptical of what they're really going to be able to achieve nearly a week after his disappearance. >> what is united states saying about all this? >> well, we have heard from administration officials saying that while they're not really saying much publicly right now, there's a lot of work going on behind the scenes, that they're following up on this with senior government officials in saudi arabia and that different u.s. agencies are looking into this. but people we have spoken to here, kate, say that the u.s. and president trump have an obligation to do more. they do have a good relationship, a close relationship with the saudi royal family, especially the crown prince, mohammed bin salman, and the united states should be using that relationship to push for more answers. >> thank you so much. i appreciate it. >> here with me right now is a friend of khashoggi's, erin david miller. thanks for being here. >> pleasure. >> i was just looking.
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our correspondent, she just gave us some information a little earlier saying two senior administration officials tell cnn that although the u.s. is not saying anything publicly right now, the u.s. government is quietly working the case of the missing journalist across several agencies. and at senior levels of the administration. but what do you make of it? you haven't heard from the president. this is a "washington post" contributor, a well respected journalist. and nothing from the white house so far. >> just on a personal note, i do consider jamal a friend. and everyone who knew him, many of my own friends and former colleagues, saw him as a man with tremendous courage, tremendous integrity. a man who loved saudi arabia, truly. a saudi patriot and a nationalist, but a man also who had profound doubts about the nature of the direction under the current saudi leadership. but i asked jamal, i saw him this summer, whether or not he was concerned, why he did this? why he risked criticizing the
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government, even from afar, and the answer was simply because i love my country, and i believe that. as for the trump administration or any administration, we have long been enthralled with the saudis. and the trump administration is not the first to suggest the possibility that this u.s./saudi relationship is too big to fail, but the reality is, in the face of this wanton, brutal, if it is proven that the saudi leadership orchestrated his disappearance and death, and if in fact the decision to do that was taken at the highest levels of the saudi government, then the administration is obligated for many reasons to impose accountability. i would hope right now that the administration at senior levels are talking to the saudis to basically say, we need to know exactly what happened. what was your role in this? and we need to know it. because this administration has
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committed itself to reenergizing the u.s./saudi relation. the president took his first foreign trip to saudi arabia, when his four predecessors had gone to canada or mexico. we have largely placated and assuaged the saudis over the last 600 days. they owe us, frankly, and on this one, they owe us an explanation. and then we need to draw the right consequences and impose accountability. congress will, i suspect, if the administration doesn't. >> i do wonder, how does anyone get answers at this point? if it doesn't come from, you know, a public calling out, if you will, from the very top, from president trump? >> i agree with you. you have a dozen intelligence services in istanbul, all with ears. all who are picking up all kinds of chatter. i mean, how do the turks draw their conclusions? that jamal entered the saudi consulate on tuesday, never
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exited, maybe they shut down the close circuit tve ess so there no way to know if he left or not. but clearly he didn't leave, and the turks claim to have video showing he was beaten, tortured, and ultimately killed. at some point, at some point, there will be a reconstitution of this narrative, and then i suspect that the proper conclusions need to be drawn. on behalf of journalists all over the world who must fear for their personal security and for the credibility and the value and the interest of the united states as well. khashoggi was not a u.s. citizen. i think he was applying for a green card. >> yeah. >> but he was a resident here, working for "the post" and a good decent man, kate. a good decent man. >> if this isn't something to speak out about and speak up about, what is? >> we sanction the turks for the treatment of pastor brunson, and
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he's now under house arrest. and the trump administration found a way to do that. and i suspect they really need to deliver, whether they will, i have my doubts. >> aaron, thanks for coming in. >> always a pleasure, kate. >> we'll be right back. fact is, there have been twenty-six in the last decade. allstate is adapting. with drones to assess home damage sooner. and if a flying object damages your car, you can snap a photo and get your claim processed in hours, not days. plus, allstate can pay your claim in minutes. now that you know the truth... are you in good hands?
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>> one can only hope that the kavanaugh nomination is where the process has finally hit, rock bottom. >> what i would like to do when we get all done, because this is almost rock bottom, i would like to have the future mending things. >> we have hit rock bottom when it comes to the judicial confirmation process, and sadly, i agree. >> have we? joining me right now, former republican congressman david jolly. thanks for coming in, congressman. >> you got it. good to be with you, kate. >> of course. when it comes to what you have watched play out over the last let's say the last two weeks, do you think congress has hit rock bottom? >> no, because understand what the leader of the republican party did just in the last hour. he called the charges against kavanaugh a hoax. and those are unnerving words. my concern is because republicans have seen some sort of spike in intensity, that we
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have been talking about now for his followers on capitol hill want to keep this very divicive story of judge kavanaugh out there. we will see a made for tv swearing inner is mopey this evening and continue to see it going into november 6th. >> you have been a critic of donald trump along the way, but i keep thinking you know you hit rock bottom when things go in the other direction. when it comes to the state of affairs, what is going to bring that about? is it the voters or public outcry or someone standing up and being a leader. >> you know, when bill clinton suffered defeat of a congressional majority in 1994, he did something interesting in the first state of the union after that election. he said voters in '92 voted for change.
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voters in '94 when they put in a republican majority voted for change, but he said it's important to understand they didn't go to the ballot box singing. they went shouting. we will see a lot of voters shouting loudly. we don't know which direction this is going to go. if you are a democrat, you like the numbers in the house and if you are a republican you like the senate right now. at the same time we get to judge the integrity of our elected officials. some of these are structural and some come down to the integrity of our leaders. we get to judge that. >> we had a stark assessment. what do you mean by that? >> there is not. i hate to single out susan collins and jeff flake, but they are moderate in word, but not in deed. this should have been a confirmation process that came to a halt because there were sensible moderates in the republican party.
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in the words of lisa murkowski, even if you suggest he was a good man, he was not the right man to ascend to the court at this moment in history. the entire republican party fell in line. we know there are only anecdotal examples of moderate people in the party. there is no block or wing that can influence and control the party, just as you can make the argument on the democratic side that that wing has become a disappearing element. >> i have been wondering this since last week. were the key senators undecided or undeclared. >> they were undeclared and realizing the overwhelming pressure and they placated it and voted along with party lines. this was a moment to lead and we didn't see leadership emerge.
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murkowski deserves the reputation for her vote, but we didn't see that in the republican party. barack obama talked about a post partisan washington. a post partisan country. we have not achieved that and going into 2020, we will ask questions. can a two-party system achieve a post party america or can we see the emergence and that is actually competitive and offers a 30 way. >> first things first. appreciate your time. thank you so much. >> thank you, kate. >> still ahead, a mystery unfolding on the streets of chicago. a masked man is killing at random and taken two lives. what they are trying to do to track him down. that's next. switched to geico and saved hundreds. excuse me... winner! that's a win. but it's not the only reason i switched. hi! geico has licensed agents who i can reach 24/7. great savings and round the clock service?
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leave no room behind with xfi pods. simple. easy. awesome. click or visit a retail store today. the fbi and atf are joining the search for a masked killer, stalking chicago. police say the gunman seen in this video we are showing you killed two people in separate shootings less than two days apart. the victims chosen at random. douglas watts and 24-year-old mosque wits were gunned down while walking in a neighborhood. do investigators have any real leads at this point? >> we know that video is their best clue. we are trying to show it to you
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over and over. we believe the video of the man dressed all in black is something they want to focus on. his walk is unique. they believe he lived in the rogers park neighborhood where the shootings happened. we hope as people watch this, it will give them clues. they got over 150 calls, but no arrests. 40 detectives are working the case 24-7. when you think about the scary details of this, the weather has been great and the men were outside. the 24-year-old was near the lake and he was shot execution style in the back of the head and the man just walked away. the other man who was 73 years old was walking a dog when he was attacked. neighbors have been shaken to the core and raised $21,000 to catch this person. so far no significant leads as we are being told by police. >> it's happening in broad daylight. ryan, thank you so much.
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investigators will stay on top of it as well. appreciate it. thank you so much for joining me at this hour. inside politics with john king starts right now. >> thank you, kate and welcome to inside politics. i'm john king and thank you for sharing your day with us. the deputy attorney general who oversees the special investigation are chatting. we know the boss is mad at rod rosenstein. the audacity of mitch. he blocked the democratic supreme court pick in 2016 and won't rule out push for example election year confirmation if president trump got another vak a vakan vakancey. the debate over fallout intense feis. house races for

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